Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.
Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.
“This year’s election is a test for the working-class coalition that lifted Trump into the White House and gave majorities to Republicans in the House and Senate” - the under-educated coalition? This is the only reason working class would vote Republican. Oh, hold on, bigotry too.
Misinformation too.
Remember, none of us, even those of us on Lemmy, have ingested the same news and headlines.
Sure, there are shared overlaps in forums like these or among those who, maybe, only listen to Tucker Carlson and branch out from there for their worldly info.
Never assume other people know what you know. Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.
There is no central news. No shared headlines.
Just TikTok, social media & its algorithms, and whatever podcasts/YouTube/NewsChannel we sporadically choose to consume on a level that most often resembles TikTok consumption.
We need an easily-digestible highlight reel of Trump crimes to show people.
Oh please. Its obviously ai generated fake news from the evil dumocrats
It’s existed since he first announced running in like 2015. They do know about it and they don’t care.
Jordan Klepper has skits from the 2016 run through the attack on the capital where he would mingle with MAGAs when they gathered, because he looked like them. (Not much on the violent coup attempt, his fear in that crowd was evident, he grabbed footage at the edge then noped out).
He did get past the evade replies regarding bad things Trump was doing, occasionally, to the true reply which was exactly as you said: I don’t care.
We laugh at the evade replies because they’re so ridiculous, but the “I don’t care” is the real answer.
Exactly. We are so far beyond “do they know.” Imo these people should be culpable too to some degree. And I do have loved ones in the cult, which I’m sure we all do because it’s so massive.
We’re never going to get through this kind of shit if we keep giving fascists the benefit of the doubt. They will not give it to you and they applaud violence on innocent people, hate, inequality, etc.
There is no doubt on their side, why are we not listening to who these people are saying they are? They literally gloat about it. That’s what those hats became, very quickly. It’s a brag that they can be openly hateful now. Fuck that.
A lot of discussion/argument begins and ends with news source incompatibility so we don’t get down to “I don’t care” often.
I don’t care
In many cases, “I don’t care” really means “I don’t believe what you’re telling me but I don’t have the ability to refute it.”
I suspect the whole of it is a little of both.
I don’t care about the leopard as long as it’s not my face
The problem is that explaining just how bad even his first term was already takes nearly twelve hours. And his second term has been much, much worse.
Never assume other people know what you know.
agreed but that’s by choice. I read kiwi farms etc for that exact reason and occasionally they make a good point, but most of it is obviously bat shit insanity, or just plain bigotry
Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.
of course, how can we know everything ?, so we’re all selective but there’s even many in here that refuse to engage in politics because icky. Many folks say they filter any mention of him out of their feed, so they’ll be as uninformed as Bo and Luke Duke in this interview and yet I bet they won’t be uninformed and also vote for Trump.
There adults, if they drink, get drunk and then drive we blame them… but for some reason they make shitty political choices, not once (I could kind of understand that stupidity, it’s what got Regan elected) here but thrice and yet they still have people defending them.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson
I always think LBJ is the best anti-hero we’ve seen. He’s crass and rambunctious but willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good. While most politicians are afraid to alienate a huge portion of voters, he’s willing to alienate the Southern voters to legislate the Civil Rights Act because who cares about racists.
willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good
I recommend reading Caro’s biography series on LBJ. I think you would find this statement to be not accurate. He was willing to alienate (white) Southern voters because his one overarching goal in life was to be (and to stay) President and (white) Southern voters were never numerous enough to ensure that. To his credit, LBJ seemed to be very much not racist personally, but fixing racism was never a goal of his.
He was fine with this happening to families other than his. I hope it gets worse for him.
“somehow, this is actually [Biden’s] fault”
Same, they don’t learn any other way.
That’s where we should be different. We should want them to see the error of their ways, but we shouldn’t want anybody to struggle to get food on the plate.
They had plenty of time for that BEFORE causing all of the damage that they did. No forgetting, no forgiveness.
We should want them to see the error of their ways
a significant number of them are incapable.
I did. I still do want everyone to eat, and that’s why I vote blue. But if they want red and the misfortunes they bring, that’s on them. 🤷🏽♀️
If that happens 3 OR 4 HUNDRED MORE TIMES they MIGHT start to MAYBE Reconsider voting for Republicans!
they just vote for R harder, if the derailment in 2023, dint affect them, this wont either. especially with the gov running interference in omitting any bad news in the state.
Zero sympathy for the MAGA turds. They voted for the shit, now eat it.
is there an “leopards ate my face” community in lemmyverse? This is premium leopard food.
You’re in it bud.
c/lostlemmings
reddit has a varaint for FARMS too. im guessing it was large enough issue that it can be seperated into its own community.
On that sub, the number of farmers who have been royally fucked and still will not admit why is astounding.
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Bos can explain to his family how he’s so fucking stupid he made sure this is what would happen to them.
Trump could do what the Democrats never could, put a Democrat from Texas in the US Senate.
Wait the Democrat won?
You used the whole thing in past tense, as if the event already happened, not future tense.
What you wanted to say was “Trump did what the Democrats never could; make it very likely for a Texas Democrat to be elected to the Senate.”
By saying “put” you implied the event already came to pass.
English is a dumb language though so understandable for your mistake to be made.
Edit: correction; I missed the first “could” and only saw the second “could”. My mistake - the sentence is grammatically correct. Though this is a fine example of why English is a dumb language. Still not as bad as Finnish I’d say (sorry Finns the country and everything is great to me but we gotta fix the language, too many exceptions like English except unlike English you just get misunderstood since so few letters of the alphabet are typically used to make words. Old Finnish had more order than Modern Finnish).
The “could” earlier in the sentence applies to the phrase beginning with “put”. The grammar is fine, though the sentence is a little long.
Ah you’re right, I missed the first “could” and only saw the second. That’s what I get for browsing Lemmy late at night when sleepy.
I see a lot of hatred towards these people, it makes sense given what community we are in.
Personally, I don’t want them to suffer, but I do find humor in it, just as my coping mechanism.
I would be salty and get them to admit they were wrong, taking satisfaction in a big I told you so is much better than wanting more suffering even if they deserve it.
The point is they weren’t tricked. The constantly claimed they were tricked but they weren’t, trump told them who he was and what he would do if elected, and they voted for him anyway, and then he did exactly what he said he was going to do, and now they’re upset.
The whole project 2025 was a matter of public record. Granted these people can’t read but still, I’m sure they could have found an audiobook version or something.
“he’s not hurting the right people”, meaning brown and any non-white “immigrants”. Fuck all magats. They literally fucked this country over, I’ll never forgive them. Have ended friendships over it. It’s not a political stance, it’s a moral stance.
You voted for a man you wouldn’t leave your daughter or wife alone with for some stupid fucking reason.
You voted to end your wife or daughters rights.
I could go on, but I’m tired. Trump sucks, his followers suck more since I have to see them. Eat shit and die, all magats.
They actively chose to inflict auffering on others. They fucking deserve it.
Oh they do, and that’s why I wouldn’t see them suffering as injustice, but I don’t wish it to happen.
The way I see it, if I’m wishing stuff, I rather them have an existential crisis about it and come to the conclusion that they’ve been wrong all their life and beg for forgiveness.
The point is they weren’t tricked. The constantly claimed they were tricked but they weren’t, trump told them who he was and what he would do if elected, and they voted for him anyway, and then he did exactly what he said he was going to do, and now they’re upset.
The whole project 2025 was a matter of public record. Granted these people can’t read but still, I’m sure they could have found an audiobook version or something.
Oooooof Cuck porn
My favorite part is how he was the only one who could prevent new wars. And stop existing wars. It’s pretty cool how now there’s no more wars. Amerika is finely great again.
The President of Peace, winner of the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. That’s serious, super serious.
He’s brought peace to the middle east at least a couple dozen times.
Don’t forget Ukraine! He made so much peace in Ukraine. Tremendous peace!
Day one! He truly has all the cards. Playing with a full deck he is.
I’ve lost count of the number of times he’s ended the Iran war that he started.
Sipping tea from beer mugs with his co-workers…
What the fuck??? Who does that? The lead photo in the article clearly shows them drinking beer. Such a weird sentence.
I feel sorry for the children - but only the children
Don’t you think it’s to late now? He already lost his job. He’s not gana find another with the person he voted for 3 times.
And he’ll vote for the next GOP candidate telling himself he’s not voting for Trump again because his voters are too dumb to connect the dots.
None of the 70.98% of the Springfield electorate deserve to have shit. They better pull themselves up by their bootstraps and pray trump doesn’t get rid of all the remaining social programs he said he would get rid of. Racist liars, going along with the lie that Hatians were eating dogs and cats.
All the other red counties should take note because this will be you soon. I certainly won’t help you but I’m sure the centrists and independent people who want to hold hands and sing will be glad to show you unconditional kindness and help you out.
Not me though. You need to repent because Jesus is the only one gonna put up with your lowlife soul.
Looks like he is going to be working the gas station night shift real soon
Hahahaha. Love knowing so many of these people will be homeless. Don’t expect me to give you a dollar - gotta pull yourself up!
Hatred is a funny thing. You eventually adopt the mentality of those you hate.
I don’t think so. That’s their framing. If you are a hateful POS don’t be surprised when people hate you back. I look forward to their suffering for their choices.
You look forward to their suffering…
Paradox of tolerance
false dichotomy. the opposite of wishing someone ill is not tolerance.
Tolerance means letting someone make their own choices, it doesn’t cover what comes next. It’s a disservice to tolerance to conflate the two.
Oh yes i do. I want mass suffering.
That’s psychotic.
They only learn when they suffer. (When it finally affects them)
I haven’t seen evidence they learn regardless.
It’s okay to just want these people to suffer out of a sense of revenge, but don’t expect them to learn anything or act like anything will get better in the broader society. These people voted for Trump in the first place because their lives already kinda sucked. I think more suffering is just gonna make them bigger assholes
Showing kindness to those who don’t share their kindness with others will have you overworking for people who don’t care. They are, in a word, toxic. Toxic people don’t deserve the effort and grace given to them - they are to be met with the animosity they revel in showing others.
Yes, they’re toxic and hateful, yes they don’t care, yes they don’t deserve it, but I would argue empathy and kindness is what sets us apart from them. I still want to improve the lives of everyone, whether they appreciate it or not. But our benevolence shouldn’t extend to allowing Republicans to remain in power…
Agree with you. I have plenty of empathy for them, I know they have none for me, but that quite literally is the difference. I won’t let go of that for hatred.
The way to improve the lives of the hateful is to have them live the life they demand of others. It is speaking their language. If they don’t want to be treated as such they can change too. If or when they change I will be there to comfort and console them, to help them heal from their hate, but I am under no delusion that they will change from others being too nice to them. COVID shook that naivety from me.
showing empathy to people who don’t share your empathy is toxic. it’s toxic empathy is what it is.
…some people make horseshoe theory look real attractive. but really it’s just wilhoit’s law in action. the only seemingly workable politics left is conservativism.
So we went from “enjoying the suffering of others” to “kindness is conditional”…
Look, I’m not going to be nice to the people who want me and my friends dead, alright?
No one’s asking you to? The problem is assuming that all 1400 people laid off are Trump supporters and wishing them ill by association. “All farmers deserve suffering because 80% off farmers are Trump supporters!”
No what I’m saying is kindness is, indeed, conditional.
I’m sure for you it is.
70.98 % of voters in Springfield voted for the bastard. They can deal with the consequences they themselves wanted for others or they can fuck off, but I don’t care.
I just wish we had a man on the street in Springfield doing a YouTube daily video so other Ohio red counties could see what happens when you vote for cruelty.
Nobody in this thread says “all farmers” or implied all 1400 people deserve it. You’re being disengenous and arguing in bad faith.
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Those who hate cause others to hate them back. Love has never stamped out fascism.
You can tell they were all Trump voters because they committed the sin of living in Ohio, a state where 43% of people voted Harris!
You can tell they are Trump voters cause the idiot said he voted for Trump three times? These people are just fucking idiots they don’t get any sympathy from me.
My aunt is posting on Facebook to Mike Johnson to reconsider the social security cuts. Get your lazy ass to work and stop asking for handouts.
Oh dang, everyone fired was 1400 clones of that guy? My bad, I didn’t realize.
Right? MAGA people just dont want to work.
They want to become professional victims and cry about why their kids wont talk to them anymore and they’re really a bunch of bitter miserable people that are mad the world got better but they didn’t.
They’re lazy and expect free stuff and think that because they’re old, everyone should bow to them.
Nah, we dont need them. Who wants to hear what a mean old cunts opinions are? I dont.
