I looked up 8:65 because it irked me, and it says: (Link)
O Prophet! Motivate the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast among you, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are one hundred of you, they will overcome one thousand of the disbelievers, for they are a people who do not comprehend.
The others are also similarily reduced - so i’d say these “translations” above are not accurate because they have been shortened as far as possible, but they capture the gist of it.
Edit: 8:60 says for example:
Prepare against them what you ˹believers˺ can of ˹military˺ power and cavalry to deter Allah’s enemies and your enemies as well as other enemies unknown to you but known to Allah. Whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be paid to you in full and you will not be wronged.
9:30 ff:
The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah,” while the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” Such are their baseless assertions, only parroting the words of earlier disbelievers. May Allah condemn them! How can they be deluded ˹from the truth˺?
They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah, even though they were commanded to worship none but One God. There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him. Glorified is He above what they associate ˹with Him˺!
They wish to extinguish Allah’s light with their mouths, but Allah will only allow His light to be perfected, even to the dismay of the disbelievers.
He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists.
Not exactly “perverts”, that is not what this says, and this specific passage also does not mention fighting. But it’s also not exactly a nice view of others, and other parts are very vocal about what to do with disbelievers.
for example at 22:16 - 22:21
Indeed, the believers, Jews, Sabians, Christians, Magi, and the polytheists—Allah will judge between them ˹all˺ on Judgment Day. Surely Allah is a Witness over all things.
Do you not see that to Allah bow down ˹in submission˺ all those in the heavens and all those on the earth, as well as the sun, the moon, the stars, the mountains, the trees, and ˹all˺ living beings, as well as many humans, while many are deserving of punishment. And whoever Allah disgraces, none can honour. Surely Allah does what He wills.
These are two opposing groups that disagree about their Lord: as for the disbelievers, garments of Fire will be cut out for them and boiling water will be poured over their heads,
melting whatever is in their bellies, along with their skin.
It’s for sure interpretable that way. That is the problem with all of this ancient scripture - we do not have enough context to really know what they meant.
I was discussing this - of all places - under a Jućika comic a few weeks back. We don’t even have enough common era knowledge to 100% make sure to understand comic strips from Hungary in the 60’s after the Tankies arrived, how could we ever interpret something thousands of years old with a high degree of confidence?
I looked up 8:65 because it irked me, and it says: (Link)
The others are also similarily reduced - so i’d say these “translations” above are not accurate because they have been shortened as far as possible, but they capture the gist of it.
Edit: 8:60 says for example:
9:30 ff:
Not exactly “perverts”, that is not what this says, and this specific passage also does not mention fighting. But it’s also not exactly a nice view of others, and other parts are very vocal about what to do with disbelievers.
for example at 22:16 - 22:21
That last bit sounds like the lake of fire in the Bible: a threat of posthumous torture rather than instructions for the living.
It’s for sure interpretable that way. That is the problem with all of this ancient scripture - we do not have enough context to really know what they meant.
I was discussing this - of all places - under a Jućika comic a few weeks back. We don’t even have enough common era knowledge to 100% make sure to understand comic strips from Hungary in the 60’s after the Tankies arrived, how could we ever interpret something thousands of years old with a high degree of confidence?
Err on the side of not beheading people!
You are correct. It’s a long text with many parts, so you can make it say anything by conveniently picking your quotes.