yeah matrix is closer to discord - then again most gamers (discord is mostly gamers, isn’t it?) are totally lost anyways because they still use microslop’s fascist OS

no replacement, but discord is so awful due to centralised, unencrypted data hoarding, that I don’t miss it

I’d also rather have a completely independent messaging protcol, preferably simple - and I am using XMPP for that reason - for almost all developments it’ll have to be a tradeoff, sadly :/

To be far, I find Matthew quite approachable from the official Matrix channels, so far he’s given me no reason to be suspicious - and Israel in 2017 was not nearly as bad as today’s Israel. Although yes, secure communications technologies from there shouldn’t be trusted even from 20 years ago. However, I’d say the matrix protocol is more complex than “but it’s from Israel”.

I did some basic reading on the Amdocs links, and it appears Matthew and Amandine did not directly go there, but their previously employers were acquired by Amdocs, and their teams integrated with the new company. Considering they left that arrangement in 2017, I am inclined to kinda still trust them that matrix is designed to be private. Do you have any links on the “metadata pissing” thingie? As far as I am informed to date, matrix did not send communication metadata for any given room to federated servers outside those servers who have users in the room?

yeah, the other person trying to refute my points is wilfully ignorantly defending bad features / UI and protocol decisions. They completely failed to notice that I personally am okay with the app, but was quoting reasons why it is not good for non tech-savvy or at least free and open source motivated users.

US? Do you mean Magastan? The banana republic between Mexico and Canada?

my brother in Christ, Discord and Teams both need like 2x the RAM so don’t talk to me about that.

I don’t compare a hot-dog to a pile of dog poo and say “it’s good food”.

Idk left side has contacts and groups, right side chat. What exactly is not user-friendly there?

• slow to load up
• long sync times
• high battery drain for mobile users
• room concept, as opposed to contact chats
• electron app sucks donkeyballs - wastes lots of screen space where no chat is displayed
• options way too hard to find at times (like how to add existing rooms to a space)
• no online/offline status of contacts
• trust model with device verification is unintuitive for non-techie users (admitted this one has improved with the emojis years ago and with cross-device certification)

I could probably find a bunch of more reasons if I thought longer about it. These are all issues that don’t keep me from using the app, but they are severe enough that I can’t convince non-techie friends to use element as a messenger. For matrix, there are superior messengers for sure, albeit those are then limited in functionality.

Oh damn, thanks, I tried to find another mispronunciation-understanding but didn’t think of that. Past-you-ized, okay, I was obviously reading “past-yer-wized”

I don’t get it. I read it as “past-the-waist” - the answer should be “Yes, up to my shoulders”.

Wasn’t thinking that, I just think Europeons is the far superior pun. Speaking as a Europeon, of course.

I like element but it’s not nearly as lightweight and user-friendly as I would like it to be.

*europeons was so close and yet you missed the mark.

I know the reference from my perl days but I beg to differ. I wrote well-structured perl code with plenty of comments. I like to believe those projects of mine could be useful to someone else.

Oh boy… I like perl but as a first language, that musta been rough…

Top notch shitpost. Extra credit for perl!

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It’s not an agent, it’s whoever used whatever piece of software in whatever which way to connect to those systems, that’s who is responsible and both them and the people who set up an insecure Medicare network should be in jail. For a long time.

Actually it’s safer when the human comes afterwards in the process to review and verify.

So you really get off on the thought of getting people killed. Got ya, and e.o.t.

If you think people make unpredictable mistakes all the time, you shouldn’t be driving a motorized vehicle. Because you clearly do not know what to anticipate. Do unpredictable mistakes happen? Sure thing. But they are the rare exception, and almost all the time an aware driver will be cautious about situations so as not to get caught unaware.