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    No, quite the contrary.

    Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter… have paid moderators. That’s a small number of massive social media sites. Forums, including their descendants in the form of reddit and Lemmy, and IRC chatrooms with their descendants in Discord and Telegram channels, are primarily user-moderated (with paid admins intervening in more complex situations when needed). Even Facebook offers groups that function like this. Number-wise the latter sites are way more numerous (but with a smaller userbase), and historically older (if it’s not too pretentious to speak of the history of the internet). They are the default. So my point is that reddit didn’t offload the work, because nobody (especially in the early years) thought that it was reddit’s work in the first place, it’s just providing a large playground and you do the rest.

    The traumatising part of moderation is dealing with child porn and similar, which is not much of an issue on traditional forums and chatrooms, and tbh I don’t think it is on reddit either. The worst the traditional mods deal with is harassment if they come across some aggressive loony.

    Idk, I used to moderate two (rather tame) subforums, it was kind of like picking up trash from the ground and throwing it in the bin – not super pleasant by itself, but satisfaction came from knowing that the place is a bit better off than before.










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    2 months ago

    The only thing you listed that could be described as particularly inconsistent is spelling. But non-phonemic spelling is found in countless other languages and doesn’t really hamper the language. It might even be helpful for languages with diverse accents. English could be revised on some points with no issue (<island>, and some other cases), but overall it’s functional.

    As for the rest, I don’t know how phonetics could be inconsistent. Like, is it inconsistent that frogs is pronounced as /frogz/, but clocks as /kloks/, so the -s plural ending is realised differently in different words? As for grammar, what about it? Do you think it’s unusual for a language to have “irregular” forms such as buy-bought rather than *buyed? Tons of languages have them, I doubt if there’s any without “irregularities” at all.

    (Note: syntax is a part of grammar.)

    Viewing these things as a shitshow, as something particularly negative or even harmful, is literally anti-scientific.



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    2 months ago

    So yeah, you haven’t really responded to the statement that your position is elitist, or at least smartassery that no linguist actually supports.

    maybe it was proposed because ‘ё’ denotes a very particular sound?

    Indeed. And then it wasn’t made generally mandatory, and then the Russian language continued to work fine.

    Which, notably, Western languages can never quite approximate

    Why would that be remotely notable here? We’re talking about Russian spelling of Russian language.

    perhaps because the letters are in a different position?

    And what is that position that makes the difference?




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    2 months ago

    In no way am I elitist about it

    I think that equating respect for language with usage of the letter and vague guilt-tripping of people who don’t use it is elitist.

    the replacement of ‘ё’ with ‘е’

    It’s the other way around, actually, ‘e’ is the original letter and sound, the sound changed by the 18th century or so (as far as I’m aware) and then the modified letter was proposed but never made generally mandatory. People aren’t replacing anything, they’re writing same as always.

    ‘его’ is at least a typical consistent rule, mapping to the pronunciation ‘ево’ in the same places in various words

    The name Егор doesn’t follow it, but моего and сегодня do. Why? You have to explain the etymology of сегодня at the very least to make sense of it, undermining the consistency.


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    2 months ago

    If you had read books in Russian, you’d notice that basically no Russian writer after Karamzin (who IIRC proposed the ë letter himself) “respected” the Russian language enough to use the letter. It’s legitimate for you to use it (all the better for me as a foreign speaker), but it’s not something to act elitist about.

    Whether Russian will go in the direction of English depends on how its pronunciation develops, for now it’s still pretty close to the spelling, although there are words and forms such as “моего, сегодня” that are pronounced as “моево, севодня”. I wonder how many people would support changing this spelling.