110%

iPhone: 499 Laptop: 0

You just conceded my entire point. Ethical AI exists, it can be regulated, and the problem is how a tool is built and used, not the mere existence of the tool. The rest is meaningless boogeymaning. Your “99.99%” figure came directly out of your ass, and abundant supply does not make something worthless. Additionally, nobody said Ghibli knockoffs cure cancer. You picked the dumbest use case you could find and are pretending it defines the whole technology. You also turned “your computer is built on exploitation too” into “well, my exploitation is probably smaller and somebody may have been paid,” which is not remotely moral. I think it’s extremely smart to do some of what you mentioned though: regulate training, require transparency, license protected work. Great. None of that supports “do not use AI" or invalidates it as a tool. Oh and ending a comment full of invented statistics, cherry-picked examples, and arguments nobody made by accusing everyone else of bad faith is honestly… 🤌

Slop is a consequence of tool use, not a design feature of the tool. There are vast amounts of ethical data to train against. Etc, etc, etc. I could go on but you don’t really care, you care selectively. Or you wouldn’t be using the computer (the tool in front of your hands) undeniably built upon exploitation and compromise. It is a tool. It exists. You can’t stuff the genie back in the box. Work to make shit better instead of needlessly complaining about shit you can’t control like it’s some sort of generalized target you can paint on every iteration.

Nah brother I’m not even going to continue giving you my time. You called my science and field a hobby, you questioned my reasoning when it was already presented, and you did not approach in good faith, you approached with preconceived notions, prejudice, and shit opinions based on your bad configs. I don’t owe you shit.

Kimi k3 can be ran at a cost of $37,900 with Mac studios. It’s not a hobby. Cool, glad for you. Tools are tools, I bet you don’t own or like an absolute gob of them but it doesn’t change their usefulness, and you don’t need kimi k3 for everything, I mentioned it specifically because it’s comparable to generalized frontier ai models and can be ran locally, but I also stated that you’re better off tuning models for your workloads specifically. Jfc why even comment if you’re gonna be so dumb and selective with your reading?

That is patently untrue. You can have useful ai on a esp32, a $10 chip. https://github.com/slvDev/esp32-ai It will not be as capable as kimi k3 in general generic tasks but you can fine tune models for certain workflows (literally how “distillation” works) and you can run them on affordable and available hardware. Just because you don’t understand a tool or how to properly use it does not mean someone else doesn’t.

Citation needed*

• provides no citations for his own dumb ass claims.

Well I’ll be the better man I guess… Okkkkkaaay so, first off, I’ve included a few studies published before the rise of modern ai, one from 2011 making extremely similar claims towards Google searches, but hey I can find more if you really want. Additionally, I’d love to see you work to replace several modern llm integrations with “existing technologies” because I’m here to tell you it cannot fucking be done and I’m willing to cite several fields but why don’t you just take a look at mathematics where ai has advanced the field several times over the past few months, or biology where ai has gotten so good at predicting protein fold structures that work for certain requirements that there is literally no alternative technology capable of the same feats.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6866412/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7099936/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wps.20617

https://scholar.harvard.edu/sites/scholar.harvard.edu/files/dwegner/files/sparrow_et_al._2011.pdf

https://aiinstitute.hbs.edu/navigating-the-jagged-technological-frontier/

Cool so don’t use chatgpt and tools have costs? Idk what you want? Free compute and a lolly? Like I don’t disagree that those tech bros fucking suck and I personally don’t use their service but I’m not going to turn an entire technology into a boogeyman just because some fuckwhits with too much money and not enough empathy are fucking about. The underlying technology is solid and useful as a tool, regardless of the hardware you have. You can run local models that produce useful results on even a raspberry pi. It does not matter who contributed to it to assess it as such.

You literally can. Kimi k3 is fist for fist punching at both sol and fable levels. The smaller qwen 3.8 27b is benching well against gpt 5.4 and opus 4.7. There are unreleased internal models you cannot run locally but you also can’t buy them. Additionally, big models are generally bad tools, you’re much better off tuning a local model for your specific task (Wendel from level 1 has a good video on this). If you’re gonna make claims at least do a Google search.

Brother you can run that shit local and all of your claims have so many asterisks attached that they’re essentially pointless. Everything you claimed is entirely true of base computers no ai. Hell even just internet access has been shown to have all the same negative effects. And I’m defending it because I’m not stupid and it’s a useful technology. Run your shit local. The tech bro goons don’t own the technology.

Stupid af take tbh, especially the commentary. Tools are just tools. Stop stupidly turning them into your boogeymen. Technology, scientific advancement, and evolving knowledge do not care for who contributed to them. Otherwise just get off your programmable computer brother because the first one was made by literal nazis (Konrad Z3) along with a huge laundry list of other technologies fascists have developed. Political ideology and tech do not go hand and hand just because the tech is being used as a tool to facilitate the former.

Let’s party like it’s 1999-12-31T23:59:59!

Yeah… That type of brainwashing is so commonplace now though. Just look at how the US is treating striking dock workers, people keep talking about how they make xxx,xxx and not how the ceos make xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx like it’s the workers being greedy… 🥲