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      2 months ago

      Is milk killing the planet? That’s news to me.

      The fact that there are more sustainable alternatives to milk is not evidence that milk is unsustainable.

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          2 months ago

          You could argue vegetable milk is also contributing to killing the planet. Doing that is clearly pointless.

          Is the pollution produced by the production of milk significant, in such a way that reducing it would lead to measurable changes?

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              2 months ago

              Work on improving the efficiency of the Haber-Bosch process used in the production of nitrogen just 1%.

              That will probably have a stronger impact than removing all milk production and private jets from the planet.

              There are places in which it is more efficient to optimize since that optimization will lead to a greater benefit.

              Is reducing the production of milk potentially one of these important optimizations?

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                  2 months ago

                  is this realistic?

                  Yes, industrial processes are optimized all the time. Sometimes investment is needed: there are nitrogen production factories which were built later and are more efficient than older ones.

                  we can reduce dairy consumption right now

                  Yes and no, you can stop consuming dairy on your own; worldwide reduction is quite a different thing to achieve. Not impossible, but definitely not going to happen right now. Milk production has indeed been increasing steadily throughout the years regardless of the higher share of people who became vegan around the world.

                  I like to eat cheese.

                  Thus I ask, if I make the effort to not eat cheese and to have other people not eat dairy and this leads to no milk production in the next 15-20 years. Does that actually lead to any measurable difference?

                  Or maybe I’d better focus on doing other things?